Welcome to Another Kind of Mind: A Different Kind of Beatles Podcast. We’re a collective of artists, musicians, and professionals who challenge established narratives about the band with irreverent commentary, educated criticism, and original, thought-provoking analysis.

‘Pizza and Fairytales’ is John Lennon’s phrase— a brilliant one—and he conjured it to describe one man: Paul McCartney. 

John in the 70s is fairly well documented. But what about the less communicative, less examined half of Lennon/McCartney? In this episode, Phoebe and Daphne give McCartney two things he doesn’t often get: detailed lyrical analysis and recognition of his atypical self-expression. Extending this basic respect serves to shine a brighter, warmer light on the Lennon/McCartney relationship—not just in the 70s but up to present day and beyond. 

Lennon and McCartney will be joined forever; they deserve to have their true story told.


Some People Never Know WINGS (1971)
Big Barn Bed WINGS (1973)
Band on the Run PAUL McCARTNEY & WINGS (1973)
Dear Friend WINGS (1971)
Little Lamb Dragonfly WINGS (1973)
Isolation JOHN LENNON (1970)
Too Many People PAUL & LINDA McCARTNEY (1971)
Best Friend WINGS (1972)
Let Me Roll It PAUL McCARTNEY & WINGS (1973)
Beef Jerky JOHN LENNON (1974)
#9 Dream JOHN LENNON (1974)
Bless You JOHN LENNON (1974)
Whatever Gets You Through the Night JOHN LENNON (1974)
Venus and Mars WINGS (1975)
Call Me Back Again WINGS (1975)
Silly Love Songs WINGS (1976)
Let’s Love PAUL McCARTNEY (1975)
Howling at the Moon JOHN LENNON (1979)


Paul McCartney, interview w/ Ray Connolly, Evening Standard: Paul on ‘Why the Beatles broke up’. (April 21st, 1970)
The Lyrics: 1956 to the Present, Paul McCartney & Paul Muldoon (2021)
Paul and Linda McCartney w/ Joan Goodman, Playboy (1984)
Paul McCartney in Venice (September 1976)
Paul McCartney w/ Scott Osbourne (March 1974)
George Harrison in Sounds Magazine (Nov 9, 1974)
Paul McCartney to Melody Maker (November 1971)
Paul McCartney on Day by Day (July 10, 1980)
John & Yoko interview, w/ McCabe and Schonfeld at St. Regis Hotel (Sept 9, 1971) 
Lennon Remembers w/ Jann Wenner, Rolling Stone (1970)
John Lennon: The Life by Philip Norman (2008)
Loving John, May Pang (1983)
Paul McCartney to Club Sandwich (1994)
Paul McCartney to Billboard interview (2001)
Peter Doggett talks to Mike McCartney (Beatles Book Monthly No. 199, Nov 1992)
The Beatles (afterword) by Hunter Davies (re-issued version from 1985)
Fresh Air w/ Terry Gross (2021)
Howard Stern Show (Nov 10, 2021)
Howard Stern Show (2013)
Paul McCartney w/ Anthony DeCurtis for Rolling Stone: The Paul McCartney interview. (November 5th, 1987)
Paul McCartney, from Beatles Monthly Book, N°256 (August 1997)

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